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		<title>Comment on EuroCG 2010 in Dortmund by A week of ICRA&#8217;10 &#124; DirkGerrits.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>A week of ICRA&#8217;10 &#124; DirkGerrits.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Pietro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 12:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I have not.
It seems that there are not many people that uses gtk under windows.

I have not idea if it exists some specific mailing list for gtk and win.

I&#039;ll hope to found someone interested to fix the problems.
Anyway I think that the right way to work is:
- fix the GtkWindow initialization and
- implement the gdk_window_input_shape_combine_mask
- implement the gdk_cursor_new_from_pixmap that you have workarounded.

I don&#039;t think that a patch approach can allow to a serious development 
and then I think that the right way to follow is publish bug reports
to the gtk team

The gtk fix for win32 it is out of my planes. 
I am a free software supporter and I have tried to build Ardesia 
for windows only to see my program run on it and to demonstrate the porting feasibility.

This task for me is closed even if I don&#039;t know how fix some things.

I have other priority in the development.

I&#039;m pretty sure that have Ardesia running with the mainstream Ubuntu distro it is more useful for my purposes.

I have seen that the windows user often prefer shareware software and I can not think that it is easy to make visible a tool that it run under Windows.

There are for win some tools similar to Ardesia; 
I know them (e.g. Easy Whiteboard, pointtofix...) and 
I have tried to do better and I think to have reached the goal.

We&#039;ll see, it is possible that the win32 porting will be postponed

An other very interesting porting is in the MacOsX direction, for this operating system there are not similar tools and there are a lot of designers that love this platform.

Bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I have not.<br />
It seems that there are not many people that uses gtk under windows.</p>
<p>I have not idea if it exists some specific mailing list for gtk and win.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll hope to found someone interested to fix the problems.<br />
Anyway I think that the right way to work is:<br />
- fix the GtkWindow initialization and<br />
- implement the gdk_window_input_shape_combine_mask<br />
- implement the gdk_cursor_new_from_pixmap that you have workarounded.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that a patch approach can allow to a serious development<br />
and then I think that the right way to follow is publish bug reports<br />
to the gtk team</p>
<p>The gtk fix for win32 it is out of my planes.<br />
I am a free software supporter and I have tried to build Ardesia<br />
for windows only to see my program run on it and to demonstrate the porting feasibility.</p>
<p>This task for me is closed even if I don&#8217;t know how fix some things.</p>
<p>I have other priority in the development.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that have Ardesia running with the mainstream Ubuntu distro it is more useful for my purposes.</p>
<p>I have seen that the windows user often prefer shareware software and I can not think that it is easy to make visible a tool that it run under Windows.</p>
<p>There are for win some tools similar to Ardesia;<br />
I know them (e.g. Easy Whiteboard, pointtofix&#8230;) and<br />
I have tried to do better and I think to have reached the goal.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see, it is possible that the win32 porting will be postponed</p>
<p>An other very interesting porting is in the MacOsX direction, for this operating system there are not similar tools and there are a lot of designers that love this platform.</p>
<p>Bye</p>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Dirk Gerrits</title>
		<link>http://dirkgerrits.com/2009/10/28/xournal-on-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-3932282</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Gerrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 11:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3932281&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Pietro&lt;/a&gt; 
Wow, Ardesia looks nice.  Unfortunately, I&#039;m no Windows expert either, and I&#039;m afraid I can&#039;t help you with your problem.  Have you tried any mailing lists for Windows programming or Gtk+ programming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3932281" rel="nofollow">@Pietro</a><br />
Wow, Ardesia looks nice.  Unfortunately, I&#8217;m no Windows expert either, and I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t help you with your problem.  Have you tried any mailing lists for Windows programming or Gtk+ programming?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Pietro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 10:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not able to work with a complete transparent GtkWindow 
without that the mouse event pass below the window 
(this is the default behaviour in windows)

At the moment in windows I am using a semitransparent window to avoid the problem
but in the linux version I&#039;m able to have a complete transparent window
and color different RGBA color 

See the screenshot on http://code.google.com/p/ardesia/

The other problem is that in the window32 gtk implementation the gdk_window_input_shape_combine_mask does not work properly.

In linux I use this call a lot, when I want paint on the top of the transparent window I apply a NULL shape to grab the mouse events

When you select the ungrab button I apply a transparent shape to pass the events below the transparent window

I have seen the documentation of the gdk_window_input_shape_combine_mask function
ant it says that in the window implementation in win32 does nothing
http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/gdk/gdk-Windows.html#gdk-window-input-shape-combine-mask

but reading the code I have seen that call the  gdk_window_shape_combine_mask
that make a very different think.
http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/gdk/gdk-Windows.html#gdk-window-shape-combine-mask

Anyway for the moment I have stopped to try to fix these two problem on win32
because I am alone and I have a lot of work to do to maintain Ardesia
and I have not a lot of skill in the windows environment

I think that Ardesia will be a free good program to be used to make presentation
or to be used with touch screen, tablet and...

Cheers bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not able to work with a complete transparent GtkWindow<br />
without that the mouse event pass below the window<br />
(this is the default behaviour in windows)</p>
<p>At the moment in windows I am using a semitransparent window to avoid the problem<br />
but in the linux version I&#8217;m able to have a complete transparent window<br />
and color different RGBA color </p>
<p>See the screenshot on <a href="http://code.google.com/p/ardesia/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/ardesia/</a></p>
<p>The other problem is that in the window32 gtk implementation the gdk_window_input_shape_combine_mask does not work properly.</p>
<p>In linux I use this call a lot, when I want paint on the top of the transparent window I apply a NULL shape to grab the mouse events</p>
<p>When you select the ungrab button I apply a transparent shape to pass the events below the transparent window</p>
<p>I have seen the documentation of the gdk_window_input_shape_combine_mask function<br />
ant it says that in the window implementation in win32 does nothing<br />
<a href="http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/gdk/gdk-Windows.html#gdk-window-input-shape-combine-mask" rel="nofollow">http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/gdk/gdk-Windows.html#gdk-window-input-shape-combine-mask</a></p>
<p>but reading the code I have seen that call the  gdk_window_shape_combine_mask<br />
that make a very different think.<br />
<a href="http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/gdk/gdk-Windows.html#gdk-window-shape-combine-mask" rel="nofollow">http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/gdk/gdk-Windows.html#gdk-window-shape-combine-mask</a></p>
<p>Anyway for the moment I have stopped to try to fix these two problem on win32<br />
because I am alone and I have a lot of work to do to maintain Ardesia<br />
and I have not a lot of skill in the windows environment</p>
<p>I think that Ardesia will be a free good program to be used to make presentation<br />
or to be used with touch screen, tablet and&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers bye</p>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Vicent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 18:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about my poor english. 
Thanks for Xournal on windows. Now we can use ink layers ! Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about my poor english.<br />
Thanks for Xournal on windows. Now we can use ink layers ! Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Dirk Gerrits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk Gerrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 08:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3932256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Pietro&lt;/a&gt; 
Glad I could help. :)  What transparency issues are you having?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3932256" rel="nofollow">@Pietro</a><br />
Glad I could help. <img src='http://dirkgerrits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   What transparency issues are you having?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Pietro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Dirk
Now I am able to fix the icon in the Ardesia win32 porting
http://code.google.com/p/ardesia/

I have a couples of problem about trasparency but I hope
that can solve as soon as possible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Dirk<br />
Now I am able to fix the icon in the Ardesia win32 porting<br />
<a href="http://code.google.com/p/ardesia/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/ardesia/</a></p>
<p>I have a couples of problem about trasparency but I hope<br />
that can solve as soon as possible</p>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Dirk Gerrits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk Gerrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3932222&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Stefan Mueller&lt;/a&gt; 
Glad I could help. :)  Though most of the credit of course goes to Denis Auroux for making Xournal in the first place.

Do you still have your Windows Journal files?  I used a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;virtual printer&lt;/a&gt; to turn them into PDFs, which could then be further annotated in Xournal.  Not perfect, but at least not a total loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3932222" rel="nofollow">@Stefan Mueller</a><br />
Glad I could help. <img src='http://dirkgerrits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Though most of the credit of course goes to Denis Auroux for making Xournal in the first place.</p>
<p>Do you still have your Windows Journal files?  I used a <a href="http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php" rel="nofollow">virtual printer</a> to turn them into PDFs, which could then be further annotated in Xournal.  Not perfect, but at least not a total loss.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Stefan Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thousand thanks, Dirk! 
Switching from XP Tablet Edition completely over to Ubuntu Linux had worked perfectly well for me. I have been using Xournal natively for all my note taking and PDF annotation tasks. Working on tablet PCs at work on XP however made me feel the digital divide of vendor lock-in sharply. (I had to leave all my Windows Journal notes behind as a price for the way out!) Now that the gap is filled, I can truly work cross-platform which makes my life much simpler. Thank you very, very much!
Stefan Mueller, Switzerland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thousand thanks, Dirk!<br />
Switching from XP Tablet Edition completely over to Ubuntu Linux had worked perfectly well for me. I have been using Xournal natively for all my note taking and PDF annotation tasks. Working on tablet PCs at work on XP however made me feel the digital divide of vendor lock-in sharply. (I had to leave all my Windows Journal notes behind as a price for the way out!) Now that the gap is filled, I can truly work cross-platform which makes my life much simpler. Thank you very, very much!<br />
Stefan Mueller, Switzerland</p>
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		<title>Comment on Xournal on Windows by Dirk Gerrits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk Gerrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3928765&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@fadumpt&lt;/a&gt; 
It should work in principle, although there may be bugs.  (Please &lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=163434&amp;atid=827733&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;report&lt;/a&gt; any bugs you find.)

However, you can already do PDF annotation in Windows Journal, sort of.  Windows Journal comes with a virtual printer that allows you to turn a PDF into a Windows Journal file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3928765" rel="nofollow">@fadumpt</a><br />
It should work in principle, although there may be bugs.  (Please <a href="http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=163434&#038;atid=827733" rel="nofollow">report</a> any bugs you find.)</p>
<p>However, you can already do PDF annotation in Windows Journal, sort of.  Windows Journal comes with a virtual printer that allows you to turn a PDF into a Windows Journal file.</p>
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